芬兰少年：我想加入中国人民解放军(4)
People in poor villages are living in extreme hard conditions, and joining PLA and getting trained is a dream to many。
对于大多数生活在农村极端困苦环境下的人们来说，参军受训绝对是可遇而不可求的。
PLA Soldier
Weel, I did already know that cost of getting Chinas citizenship is to give up old citizenship. But, still, it would be the cost of joining the PLA. Yes, I´m seriously thinking about joining the Chinas army。
我已经知道了换取中国国籍的代价就是丢掉原来的国籍，可是，比较能加入中国解放军这件事而言，代价依然是值得的。是的，我正在认真的考虑这件事。
LostWraith
Joining the PLA has many social benefits when you retire as a veteran, and you can learn many skills that may be helpful in finding a job in an urban center later on. You get a decent salary and is free from housing and living expenses。
参加解放军后，一旦你服役期满退伍，是可以享受很多的社会福利的。你可以学到一些用得上就业技能，(服役期间)每个月领到一份不错的薪水，而且没有住房，生活上的开支。
Another bonus is that since China is at peace and is in no hurry to fight wars everywhere, you don't really have a chance of getting killed (accidents aside but those are present in civi life as well). This makes the army a safe job and a good one。
另外一个好处，鉴于中国现在处于和平时期，没必要担心会打仗，所以你丢掉性命的可能性微乎其微(事故致死另当别说，因为在日常生活中，也会发生的)。在中国，凡此种种，使得参军变成一份安全并且体面的工作。
T-U-P
You do realized that as a foreigner, china doesn't give out its citizenship easily. It's not like Canada where you will get one if you stay for x number of years. Last time I heard from the news was that China only grants citizenship to distinguished individuals who made an impact for a better China。
你也知道啊，对于一个外国人，中国是不会轻易地颁发给他一个公民身份的。不像在加拿大，只要待够X年，你就可以拿到公民证了。之前我听到一个新闻，说中国政府只会将永久公民身份颁给对中国有杰出贡献的个人。
PLA Soldier
I understand that Chinese citizenship is hard to get. If they ask reason, I say that I want to join PLA, and you know, fresh meat for the grindery?
我了解拿到中国国籍的困难程度，如果他们问我申请理由，我就说，我想加入中国人民解放军！你们知道的，玉不琢不成器嘛。
PLA Soldier
So, the conclusion: So, it is possible for western men to join PLA, if they move to China first and gain citizenship. What comes to the other discussion, good mens does become soldiers. If not, this world would be much more darker place to live。
现在我来做结吧：一个外国人加入解放军是可能的，前提是他们必须搬到中国去住并且获得中国国籍。至于我们讨论的第二个话题，我认为好男儿应胸怀投笔从戎，惩恶扬善之志。如果没有了这份志向，我想这个世界会变得更加黑暗不堪吧。
PLA Soldier
So far, relations between Finland and China have been good. That´s why I don´t think that China would consider me as security risk, or in any other way of trouble-causing men. Only thing that might cause that sort of thinking would be that I wan´t join PLA。
目前为止，中芬关系良好，所以我不认为中国会视我为安全威胁，或把我当成啥劳什子的麻烦制造者，唯一可能招来麻烦是，我想加入中国解放军的动机吧。
bd popeye
PLA Soldier. I have some questions for you。
楼主，有几个问题想问你，
Why do you want to join the PLA? And when you become of age why don't you join the Finnish armed forces? Isn't there conscription in Finland? Thanks!
你为什么想加入PLA啊？当你适龄参军的时候，你完全可以加入芬兰军队嘛，芬兰不是也有募兵活动吗？多谢回答！
Mr T
PLA Soldier, I'm afraid that kw64 is painting an overly optimistic and unrealistic picture of what you'd be facing in trying to join the PLA. I think it's important to be realistic even if you (for some reason) really wish this could happen。
楼主，恐怕KW64为你描绘一幅过于理想的参军前景，不过你有多么想做成这件事，脚踏实地，要现实一点，懂吗。
The first thing would be to move to China. Now you can't just do that on a whim. You need to either be a student there or have a job there. Being a student isn't helpful because when you finish your studies you're off - at best it would buy you time。
首当其冲的事，你要搬到中国去住。你现在还不能有冲动就行动，到那儿，你要么当个留学生要么有个工作，修学业顶不了用，因为学业结束，你就得回来了，充其量它可以为你争取一点时间。
In regards to work, unless you have some particular skills and qualifications that China needs you're not going to get a job, other than maybe teaching English as a foreign language and that's no good long-term career. It's not stable because you can be laid off in the blink of an eye and frequently doesn't pay all that well. Certainly it won't let you get permanent residency。
再来说去那儿工作，除非你掌握了某种技能或有啥职称，否则你别想找到工作，除非是去教教英语，不过那并不是个长久的活，很不稳定，随时可能被炒掉，而且报酬通常也不高。毫无疑问，这份工作并不能使你获得永久居留权的。
Even if you get a great job, marry a Chinese woman and get permanent residency, you're still highly unlikely to get an offer of nationality. The foreigners who get Chinese passports are usually rich businessmen who contribute to the Chinese economy and get friendly with powerful people。
即使你找到份不错的工作，娶了一位中国老婆，在中国定居下来啦，抱歉，你得到中国国籍的可能性还是不大，持中国护照的外国人往往是对中国经济有贡献，与权贵来往甚密的商业巨贾或者。
But let's say you get a great job, marry a Chinese woman, get permanent residency, make great friends with people who decide on nationality applications and then an offer of nationality. That would take so long you'd probably be too old to join the PLA anyway!
再进一步，假设在此基础上，你真的结交甚广，认识了管事的人，不过那个时候，你恐怕老的连枪都提不动了吧！
