You also need to realise that China doesn't allow dual nationality, so you'd have to give up your Finnish citizenship and passport. You'd need a visa to travel to anywhere in Europe, even your home. Are you sure you'd want that?

　　你还需要认识到，中国不承认双重国籍，所以你得放弃你的芬兰籍和护照，那会导致你连到欧洲旅游，甚至到你自己的家去都需要签证，你确定你想做这件事吗？

　　Put it like this. If you want to go to China, live and work there, good luck. But you need a plan before you go as to what you're going to do there, otherwise I think you'll be unhappy. Realistically joining the PLA is not going to happen, so you will need an alternative line of work. Just remember that the Chinese job market is very competitive。

　　这样说吧，如果你想去中国，生活，工作，祝你好运，但出发前务必有个去那做什么的计划，不然，你会遇到很大的挫折的。现实地说吧，加入解放军这事永远不可能发生，随后你会妥协性地找到一份工作。可我还得提醒你，中国的劳务市场竞争是相当激烈的。

　　vesicles

　　When someone wishes someone else "good luck" in the manner as you did, it is usually a sarcastic thing. So if I'm not mistaken, you made it sound like living in China nowadays in general is a bad idea . That seems to contradict what the general feeling is about living and working in China NOWADAYS. In fact, we have multiple friends (Chinese, Chinese-Americans, Taiwanese, Taiwanese-Americans, Caucacian-Americans) who moved to China and enjoy their life over there very much. And that was not a typo and I did say Taiwanese moving to the Mainland and love it there. One of my buddies is actually pan-green and he hated the idea but his wife who is a Chinese wanted to go back badly. So he went along "for the sake of love". Now he loves it there and would not come back to the States。

　　你这种祝别人“好运的”方式实际上是在挖苦别人。如果我没弄错的话，你的意思是，现如今生活在中国是件相当糟糕的事情，这似乎与普遍的在中国生活得到的感受不符。实际上，很多朋友(华裔，中美混血，台湾人，台美混血，欧美混血)搬到中国去后，都蛮享受那里的生活的，是的没错，搬到大陆的台湾人也很喜欢那里的生活，我有个兄弟，(台湾)泛绿阵营的，他的大陆老婆想回到大陆生活，开始他气坏了，但为了爱情，他还是跟着回去了，现在他俩已经爱上了那里，乐不思蜀了。

　　TO PLA soldier, I do agree with other posters that you have to be careful about this move that you are making. As someone who has given up his original citizenship to live in another country, I tell you that giving up your own citizenship should not be taken lightly, doesn't matter which nation you are from. If you truly want to join PLA, I would suggest you live in China for a while. You usually can't get the whole picture when you are outside and looking in. you either get overly excited and positive or overly negative, depending on the kind of political/educational background you had. Some good examples of both are vivdly illustrated in this thread and this forum in general. These people are either never been to China or been away from China for a long time. I don't know about others, but I, myself, am one of these people (being away for almost 20 years). My parents always say that I am too positive on China and that I am one of those people who "is standing but never understands the backpain suffered by those who are on their knees". So you have to actually live in China to know what China is like and then make your decision。

　　想对楼主说句话，我完全同意之前有人说的，凡事务必三思而后行。作为一个过来人(我也放弃了自己原先的国籍，生活在另外一个国家)，想告诉你，把国籍看淡点吧，你从哪个国家来一点关系都没有。如果下定决心加入PLA，我会建议你先去中国生活一段时间吧，跳脱事务之外，从外部观察事务，通常获得对事务的认识并不全面客观，会过于正面或过于负面，这取决于你受到的政治教育背景。在这个帖子里甚至这整个论坛里，这样的例子生动鲜活，比比皆是，这些人要么从没到过中国，要么离开中国已经很长时间了，我不知道其他人怎么回事，但我自己就是这样的，离开我的祖国已经快20年了。

　　PLA Soldier

　　My decision isn´t totally completed yet. It is true that we have conscription in Finland, but it isn´t an army anymore these days. Well, you know, our equipment is a bit outdated. And still, there is a feeling that you should something with your life. I know that I haven´t witnessed chinese lifestyle or culture in that way I could really make that big decision by information so far. Still, the Rising Dragon has always fashinated me within my own way。

　　我的决定尚未成熟。我们芬兰的确有募兵活动，但现如今那已经称不上是一支军队了。这么说吧，我们的装备老得掉牙。另外在我心里，老有这种想法：这辈子我得干件说的出口的事！

　　我知道，我对中国人的生活方式，或者文化一无所知，只有那样，我才能真正地做出一个重要的决定。在我心里，崛起的中国龙自然有让我迷醉的地方。

　　Okey, now finally the reason why I wan´t to join PLA:

　　1. I have always dreamed about moving to foreign country. SWerving in that countrys armed forces would be great way to "pay back" my depth to my new homeland。

　　2. Why China? Many reasons. New superpower, strong military, enormous economy, strong coverment, chinese girls are beatifull!

　　3. And no, I´m not warcrazy militant. Actually, I love peace, but not in that way as many think about it. I wan´t to protect peace and wellfare of my beloved ones with arms if necessery。

　　4. China is not at war apparently。

　　好吧，下面就是我想加入PLA的原因：

　　1.我一直以来就有移居国外的打算，加入拥有强大军事力量国家的军队会是一个证明我对新的祖国拳拳忠心的最好途径。

　　2.为什么是中国？很多原因，新兴的超级力量，强大的军事，蓬勃的经济，强力的政府，还有漂亮的中国女孩。

　　3.澄清一点，我不是一个嗜血的战争爱好者，相反，我爱好和平，但不是以很多人想象的那种方式。我想捍卫和平，在必要的时候，我会身背长枪，向我的至爱永别。

　　4.中国现今处于和平状态。

　　Mr T

　　If I was being sarcastic it would be that I didn't think he had a chance of moving to and working in China. But I wasn't being sarcastic - if the guy wants to move to China and get a job he deserves to be wished luck。

　　如果真像你说的，我在嘲讽他，我会直接告诉他，他根本不可能移民到那儿，工作在那儿。但是我真的没有-如果他真的想到中国去，他当然值得别人对他的祝福。

　　williamhou

　　Good reasons. But since you have not been to China to experience whether you like it there or not (I am pretty sure you will)， you had better move there to study/work before you make the decision to join the PLA. I think you are likely to change your mind and turn to another profession, when you are more mature。

　　很好的理由，可是因为你从没到过中国，你不会知道你是否喜欢那儿(当然，我确信你会爱上那儿的)，你可以在决定加入PLA之前先在那里学习或工作一段时间。我相信，等你再长大一些，你很有可能会改变你的想法，改行换业。

　　Moving to China should be easy. Nowadays foreigners are common in the developed cities of China (Tier one cities, namely Shanghai, Beijing, Shenzhen, Guangzhou) and they are very popular, especially if you are white and if you have good people skills/connections. Building relationships and making friends with people during your study/work there is VERY important, you can get a lot of opportunities if people like you and introduce you to those who make decisions。

　　移居中国应该不难，现在在中国的大城市(上海，北京，深圳，广州)，外国人很常见，而且相当受欢迎，特别是对有较强沟通能力的一些白人。在学习工作的同时，建立自己的关系网，结交四方朋友是很重要的，如果你的朋友喜欢你，把你介绍给管事的人，那样会得到很多的机会的。

　　Joining the PLA in China is a dream for many in the less developed areas, but not for those already have good living standard. The life and training in PLA, in fact most armies are very tough for newbies, and the living standard of PLA may be far worse than Finnish army's, for that I do not think joining PLA as a regular newbie would be a good idea for many people. As you said 'chinese girls are beatifull' I think you would prefer a career you are able to meet those girls more often。

　　对于生活在欠发达地区的人们来说，参军是个不错的选择，但对于富裕地区的人们而言，就不是这种情况了，在PLA中的生活，受训，事实上和其他国家军队一样，对新兵都是相当苛刻的，而且PLA的生活标准很可能远赶不上芬兰军队，所以我说，在PLA中当个新兵蛋子对很多人来说，并不是个好主意。至于你说“中国的姑娘们很漂亮”，我想你还是希望找个能频繁接触女孩的职业吧。

　　I would suggest you get a good education background first from western countries and get a job in one of the tier 1 cities in maniland China, Hong Kong or Macau to experience the lifestyle and build connections as well as explore opportunities. Or if you are sure you want to join the armed force, apply for a degree in one of the military academies in China you would be valued by most armed forces in the world when you graduate, for your unique background, and you can decide to get Chinese citizenship and join the PLA as a officer or join other armed forces. I am not sure how hard it is for foreigners to apply for military academies but the requirements are surprisingly low for foreigners in the most reputed universities in China, because the top universities are starving for foreign students and they want to be more international. So if you don't get a place in military academy, getting into Tsinghua University/ Beijing University would be a good alternative and would make your career path more flexible。

　　我会建议你，先在西方接受一个良好的教育，然后在我说的那些中国大陆的大城市加上香港，澳门里面找份工作，适应那里的生活，建立关系网，并寻找机会。如果你已决定参军，就在中国的军事院校里面申请个学位读读，在毕业之时，你会因为独一无二的背景，得到世界上绝大多数的军事机构赏识，那个时候再决定是获得中国国籍加入PLA成为一名解放军军官还是到其他国家参军。我不清楚一个外国人去申请读军事院校会有多难，但是外国人申请中国其他的一些重点大学的门槛相当低，因为这些大学想变得国际化，对国外学生求贤若渴，所以如果你没申上独立的军事院校，去读北大清华会是个不错的备用选择(无语啊)。这样，你的职业规划会更具灵活性。

　　Hope it helps

　　希望能帮到你！

　　FriedRiceNSpice

　　It would be easier to get into Harvard or Stanford.... Those are the two toughest schools in the world to get into. EVERYONE in China aspires to those two universities。

　　申请哈佛或者斯坦福都比北大清华容易…… 它们是世界上最难申到的两个学校，中国的所有学生都憧憬这两所学校。

　　williamhou

　　That's true for Chinese students. Not the case at all for foreign students, they do not need to be involved in the Chinese high school exams and they are judged differently。

　　对中国学生来说是这样，但对其他外国的学生未必，他们没必要经历高考，并且考核方式很多元。

　　五星红旗(突然出现个中文ID……不知道是中国人还是取这名字的外国人。我们的网友也有用英文做网名的嘛)

　　It's no problem!

　　没问题，来吧。

　　PLA Soldier

　　Even though my questions have been answered, any and all tips and advices would be really apriciated

　　尽管我的问题已经得到了解答，在这里还是很感激所有给我留下建议和意见的朋友们。

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